Deformed bass or EP?

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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby MattoTarpon » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:13 pm

Brez1 wrote:All the EPs I've caught and photographed are solid colour all the way to the edge of the #@! fin :wink: so I still say deformed bass or unlikely hybrid :gu: the natural range of EPs is only as far north as the Richmond River in northern NSW ( Apparently )


bit of a Google search will concrete this. :wink:

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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Sway9 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:14 am

Brez1 wrote:All the EPs I've caught and photographed are solid colour all the way to the edge of the #@! fin :wink: so I still say deformed bass or unlikely hybrid :gu: the natural range of EPs is only as far north as the Richmond River in northern NSW ( Apparently )


They also say the Murray cod range is the Murray river, yet I've seen a few pics surface of them caught in the nepean
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Nativeman » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:25 am

Just saying, take the lure out of its gob, would it look different again...I'm saying bass with a knock on its skull when it was younger.
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Gareth6210 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:54 am

Cheers for all the feed back guys! I'll just call it an 'Estuary Bass' :lol:

MattoTarpon wrote:bit of a Google search will concrete this. :wink:

like i mentioned.

Mate, regardless of whether it was released/stocked in the area doesn't count for one's aquarium fish being released in to the system once they're too big too..obviously I do my research before hand, but that kind of stuff does not help the correct I.D of it, hence putting it on here with the hopes of an EP fisherman being able to help..there's been many a case where fish have been caught outside their 'distribution zone'..
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby StevenM » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:02 am

In that section you are fishing it is just a Bass Mate

Need to get nack in there. You doing moring sessions?

What stage was the tide at?
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Gareth6210 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:23 am

StevenM wrote:In that section you are fishing it is just a Bass Mate

Need to get nack in there. You doing moring sessions?

What stage was the tide at?

Yeh mate in the morning, and just changed to outgoing..
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby ShortyK » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:38 am

Gareth6210 wrote:
StevenM wrote:In that section you are fishing it is just a Bass Mate

Need to get nack in there. You doing moring sessions?

What stage was the tide at?

Yeh mate in the morning, and just changed to outgoing..


Do you find the tide makes a difference.
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Sway9 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:58 am

Gareth6210 wrote:Cheers for all the feed back guys! I'll just call it an 'Estuary Bass' :lol:
'..


Or just call it a perch... Then your never wrong
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Jigglin » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:18 pm

It may very well be an Estuary Bass, as it looks like a hybrid. The Two species are known to interbreed and I have seen a few photos over the years of hybrids, which look very similar.

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/research/areas/aquatic-ecosystems/outputs/2011/2143
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby andrewm » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:16 pm

Sway9 wrote:
Or just call it a perch... Then your never wrong



How so????
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby ShortyK » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:49 pm

Here is some info I found that lists a few quick differences between Estuary Perch and Bass


The estuary perch have a slightly larger mouth and more scooped forehead.

The perch also have a slight dip in the bridge of the forehead where the bass have a longer tapered snout & concave in shape.

Bass have white fingers on the ventral and #@! fin where a Perch tend to be dark throughout.
Estuary perch spend most of their time in the salt and brackish water, very rarely entering the fresh. Bass will spend most of their time in the freshwater and come down to the brackish to spawn.

The estuary perch has smaller scales than a Bass.

Photo from the site, have removed the persons head as it was not my photo, but I would love to have caught his fish :lol:
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Snapper 51cm, Impoundment Bass 40cm
Reef shark about 2m, Spangeld Emperor 28cm
Longtail Tuna 118cm, Spanish Mackerel 117cm
Wild Yellow belly 37cm.

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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Brez1 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:55 pm

Sway9 wrote:
Brez1 wrote:All the EPs I've caught and photographed are solid colour all the way to the edge of the #@! fin :wink: so I still say deformed bass or unlikely hybrid :gu: the natural range of EPs is only as far north as the Richmond River in northern NSW ( Apparently )


They also say the Murray cod range is the Murray river, yet I've seen a few pics surface of them caught in the nepean


Yes the odd EP will venture past their natural range but the Big difference is EPs have not been stocked North of their natural range :wink: unlike Murray cod , GP and SP which have either escaped from the dams feeding into the Nepean or were part of " Karma releases " by the Buddhists . Can you say for ceratin the cod you saw from the Nepean were not the naturally occurring ( but very rare ) Easterns ?
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Brez1 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:02 pm

Gareth6210 wrote:Mate, regardless of whether it was released/stocked in the area doesn't count for one's aquarium fish being released in to the system once they're too big too..obviously I do my research before hand, but that kind of stuff does not help the correct I.D of it, hence putting it on here with the hopes of an EP fisherman being able to help..there's been many a case where fish have been caught outside their 'distribution zone'..


Directed to me ? :beye: could've been an aquarium fish I guess , one can never discount that these days ! But I have caught quite a few EPs now including a bunch yesterday , I've cross referenced a lot of my photos and that doesn't look like any of them , sorry to disappoint you
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby Sway9 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:39 pm

andrewm wrote:
Sway9 wrote:
Or just call it a perch... Then your never wrong



How so????


Because Australian bass are perch
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Re: Deformed bass or EP?

Postby MattoTarpon » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:56 pm

Sway9 wrote:
andrewm wrote:
Sway9 wrote:
Or just call it a perch... Then your never wrong



How so????


Because Australian bass are perch


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_bass

Close but not quite..
Bass - 52cm
Mary River Cod 69cm my dream catch.
Flathead - 64cm Yellowbelly - 54cm
Bream - 38cm Silver Perch - 44cm
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Whiting - 27cm

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