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Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby Freewily » Wed May 21, 2014 12:07 pm

Practise makes perfect!!!!! That's it! :lol: :lol: No I will continue on. :grin:
:grin: Well I have been Fly Fishing out of my Hobie Revolution Kayak for around 5 years now. And about 20 years or more out of it.
Now I nearly always Fly Fish from my Kayak & enjoying it more & more as I get more practise.
I dont use a line basket, but they do have an advantage by stopping your line sinking & or drifting & tangling around the Mirage Drive, Rudder & other things.
The other, I am used to the line either wrapping around my rod holders, mirage drive pedals, fishfinder & anchor trolley clip. :roll: The clip can be moved out of the way & my ram mount rod holders can be lowered out of the way too. :grin: But now it seems this is happening less as I adjust the way I cast.
I have found that I have to get out of my comfort & habit zones too. That is when stripping the line in to sometimes swap hands & strip line with the other. Feels wonky at first but you do start to adjust making it feel more normal after a few sessions. I can now strip line directly onto the kayak in front of me at any time if I want by swapping my stripping hand. But still prefer to strip line with my right hand as I am right handed. Meaning if conditions are right then it wont matter the line going over the sides. This is when you may prefer the stripping basket on the sides of your Yak. :grin:
The other thing is, do you drift or anchor? :?:
I found my favourite times is when there is no wind & you drift with the current wether it is fast or slow, casting towards the banks & stripping the line back to me. This way you & the fly drift at the same pace. Better than casting up or downstream.
I am happy if the wind is blowing with the current also as long as it isn't blowing too hard.
The worst is a cross wind as you drift as this would make you either drift towards or away from the bank. :grr: But you learn patience & timing knowing when to stop casting & turn your kayak back & start another drift. I have also started to pull the Mirage drive out & insert it backwards & Pedal it with one hand to move back away from the bank. :grin:
At this stage I have adjusted quite a bit & am finding that I could probably Fly Fish for most of the day in all sorts of wind & currents. I have learnt to back cast to a target area & find that sometimes it is more powerful than my forward casts. I think this is a must to learn as well & helps you not to twist your body as much when casting to your left or right. And definitely helps casting in a cross wind where a normal cast would make the fly hit you on the back of your scon! :lol:
Another way of fly fishing that I have recently adapted to is trolling with a fly. Great when the wind is too strong & in either dirty or deep water where the fish don't spook as you drift over them. Especially good for Flathead. :wink: That is I will cast a sinking fly out & then let line out to a desired length as the wind blows me along, then just troll. :grin: giving the fly the desired twitches as you go and saves energy from not having to cast all the time. :grin: I had discovered this method recently when the wind was blowing me too quick over the water, so just trolled a weighted yabby & caught a Flatty. I realised then, hey I can Fly fish the same way as I use plastics. :wink: I did this with a weighted crab fly too. As the release of the fly line lets the crab lay still for a while. And I did get a hit too from a bream I expect.
So there you have it. Fly Fishing made easier! :lol: :roll: :grin: and practise makes perfect. Well nearly. :?: :grin:
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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby dennist » Wed May 21, 2014 12:21 pm

Good Post.

A client of mine in NZ does a bit of fly work off his ski. Looks like great fun.

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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby arpie » Wed May 21, 2014 1:22 pm

Great post!! I thought I was the only one deliberately 'pedaling backwards' in my hobie! :wink:

Now that I have my shoulder 'back' .... I must give it another go!! I have caught flatties, but not bream yet.

Some lay a towel across their lap to stop the line from tangling with the other bits on the yak .... I will try the idea of sitting sideways and casting that way ...... Easier than removing all my crap!! :lol:

Will try the flats before venturing near the racks!! :beye:

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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby hillbilly » Wed May 21, 2014 6:58 pm

Freewilly, I read your post with interest this afternoon as tomorrow I will more than likely purchase a Revolution 11. I love my two paddle kayaks both Hobie Lanais, the first being bought in 2005 and the second in 2008. One has been pimped with a few bells and whistles and the other is pretty much stock standard and is the one I generally use to fly fish out of. I balance the paddle on my lap and coil the line straight in front of me where there are no obstructions to casting. I love the way that without any real effort I can straighten the fly line with a simple backpaddle after an ordinary cast or in your case where you mention trolling a fly line I'll let you know what I've been shown. About this time of year onwards the bass start to school in dams and are usually down round the thirty foot mark. The purists in the club I'm in don't particularly like this form of fishing but they're mostly boaties and can zip anywhere at a moments notice. I use a Striper IV sinking line, cast as much as I can out, backpaddle until I've got the whole fly line out, count it down to the desired depth, strip a third or so of the line, stop and let it sink again.I keep repeating the process as you are being blown along with the wind. If you get a fish just drop a marker and start over again a bit up wind or anchor close to your marker and stay on the school. That should work for flathead in a current as well with a sinking line although they're not a schooling fish. It's great if the wind or current is taking you home. Regards Bill
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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby Freewily » Sat May 31, 2014 8:08 pm

Thanks Bill. Liked your reply. The way you explained what you do in the deep waters of your Dams has made me think more on fly fishing off shore. :grin:
So now fly casting comes second in my mind in that when drifting with the wind all you would have to do is cast to the side & let out line so the fly sinks & enough line out as you drift. Two examples of fly fishing techniques for surface & reef species are as follows:-

For pelagics: Cast to your side or 45 degrees against the wind with an unweighted fly & drift along letting out plenty of floating or intermediate line for around 50 metres more or less. Then strip in line as quick as possible. Then let out the line again as you drift.

For reef species: Cast & drift letting line out with a weighted fly to get to the bottom as you drift using an intermediate or sinking fly line. Hopefully you wont get snagged on the bottom! :idiot: Then strip the line continuously to cover the entire depth from bottom to top for reef to pelagics. Or just a few sharp strips & pauses as you drift along for Snapper, Morwong, Trevally etc. Most likely Sergeant Bakers & Red rock Cods! :lol: :lol:

Can't wait to give it a go, as I have tied a few flys that resemble pilchards, garfish, bait fish & crabs years ago. :roll: :grin:
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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby yorkie2 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:30 pm

Thanks for the great post. I have been thinking of getting the old fly rod out and giving it a try. I will now.
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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby Simon Fitzpatrick » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:30 pm

Freewily wrote:I dont use a line basket, but they do have an advantage by stopping your line sinking & or drifting & tangling around the Mirage Drive, Rudder & other things.
The other, I am used to the line either wrapping around my rod holders, mirage drive pedals, fishfinder & anchor trolley clip. :roll: The clip can be moved out of the way & my ram mount rod holders can be lowered out of the way too. :grin: But now it seems this is happening less as I adjust the way I cast.


Hi Freewily thanks for sharing. Some good tips there. I like to use a stripping basket myself. Here is a link to an article I wrote on road testing a basket from South Pacific;
http://northernriverssportfishing.com.a ... the-kayak/
Here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsd84024onA
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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby arpie » Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:51 pm

Michelle & I are hoping to get out in the yak tomorrow (after a morning 'on land' lesson session) and catch some fish on the flats ....... then will walk some flats on Sunday morning as Keith needs the ute ...... fingers crossed we can land something!

Some top fly fishos are up here (including about 6+ from KFDU!) for a Fly Fishing Fest - about 50-60 people, all waving their magic wands about - most from boats - so we'll fly the yak flag! :lek:

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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby fishyak » Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:39 pm

I mostly fly fish from my Malibu Sierra SIK, for trout, on inland lakes in Vic. I have a conical sea anchor which I drop if the wind is up, which creates a slow/steady drift. For a nose-first straight drift, the sea anchor must be attached to the very end of the stern, otherwise you drift at an angle. Alternatively, I anchor up and cover the water then move a bit further on and repeat. Where there are reed beds or structure, I often tie up for a bit to cover water, then move on. With regard to line management, I generally lay a towel across my lap which is effective from a line-management perspective. The stripped line just sits there until next cast. I've learnt to cast across the body in the alternate direction so I don't have any problems covering 180deg LtoR in front of me. I have a small "hand paddle" which allows me to change direction fairly easily so it only takes a moment to be ready to cover the other 180deg behind. I've found it to be a great way to access a lot more water than otherwise available.
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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby Galey » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:36 pm

The hits on fly will come at the most unexpected moments, like this murray cod giving me a wake up call last year.

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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby Freewily » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:23 pm

Haaaaaaaa!!!!!! Whoa!!!!!!! Typical. Always when you least expect it. Love the video. That's gold! :lek:
I have had Bass jump out of the water to grab a fly as I was hanging it just above the water bank side. :lol:
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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby arpie » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:23 pm

hahaha LOVE IT!! How did I miss this one??? Funny Cod VIdeo!

I hooked a BIG NZ trout that way - sadly, I had a knot in the fly line & when it didn't go thru the runners, it busted off, cos I couldn't even try & hand line it! :?: :beye:

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Re: Fly Fishing out of a Kayak!

Postby scottski » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:43 am

haha i just came across this, brilliant!
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