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NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby arpie » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:44 am

Yesterday, in the lead up to the Forster Fly Muster this weekend (starting this afternoon from about 4pm) I hit the water with Michelle in our yaks, with the full intent of catching a bream on fly!! I've only ever landed flatties up til now ...... so armed with my BVK 7wt fly rod & a 'topwater fly' ..... I started casting towards jetties & concrete walls in The Keys ....... I had a couple of bloops and then I hooked a rope, so lifted the rod to try & jiggle the fly off ... and the rope jiggled back!! OMG! Too late, I realised it was a bream - and it got off!!

After that, I got a HEAP of bloops & hits but the fish just couldn't find the hook!! :roll:

I also caught a weed encrusted bit of wood & a Rope 'Tie Down'! :beye:
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I even managed to get a Birds Nest on a Fly Reel!! Is that a first?? Somehow the 'drag knob' had loosened off! :?:
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SO ..... until next time ...... I know where to go to get the bloops - and hopefully a bream ..... or flattie ..... or whiting ...

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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby Bwak » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:32 pm

Nice work!
Next time the fish will hold. I haven't chased bream yet with the fly rod. It is on my to do list though.
What type of fly is that?
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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby lantana » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:13 pm

Better luck next time Roberta, with a 7wt rod you wont be out gunned by a bream, i use 7wt for Saratoga, never had a birds nest with fly, would be pretty easy to get out i would think.
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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby RAD » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:23 pm

Birds nest in your fly it sure does happen, its mainly a loose drag thing as you have found just don't let it happen if you are targeting speedsters like tuna it will end in tears, usually a broken line or worse.
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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby arpie » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:08 am

....Next time the fish will hold. I haven't chased bream yet with the fly rod. It is on my to do list though. What type of fly is that.....

hehe, like you - if I'd stripped before raising the rod, I reckon the fish would have held!! But because I thought it was a snag, I lifted the rod to try & get it off & only then did I feel the weight of the fish.... but the hook obviously hadn't penetrated enough to hold it!

The fly is an el cheapo that I got off ebay - I got a packet of them. I will spray them with waterproofing to stop them from sinking too, as they did that after a while. I liked the fact it should float (with the foam) and it would sort of look like bread. Maybe I'll take some bread out & burley up next time too! :wink:

.....better luck next time Roberta, with a 7wt rod you wont be out gunned by a bream, i use 7wt for Saratoga, never had a birds nest with fly, would be pretty easy to get out i would think.....

Thanks Eric - it was the first time I'd felt 'comfy' casting out of a yak!! The new rod is 'stiffer' (or something) than my old one, so that was terrific. Fingers crossed I land one soon!! I will stick with the topwater fly in the shallows & it should get bream, whiting & possibly flatties.

It was tricky to get the birds nest out too, with the line getting stuck underneath the lower layers & not wanting to come 'undone'!

....Birds nest in your fly it sure does happen, its mainly a loose drag thing as you have found just don't let it happen if you are targeting speedsters like tuna it will end in tears, usually a broken line or worse....

I will keep an eye on that drag know (not an expensive reel - White River from memory.) I was thinking that having a fish on could be disaster!! LOL First .... get the fish on!! :idiot:

Will be getting some 'tuition' this morning & having a fish this afternoon and tomorrow morning - and hopefully land something!! Got a couple of areas to try with the top water fly! I just SO love watching the fish trying to grab it!

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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby justforfun » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:40 pm

Next time Roberta keep trying.cheers Justforfun
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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby Freewily » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:02 pm

Hi Roberta. Well done on getting out having a go. I know it can be frustrating & disappointing with al the tangles & falsehook ups.
It really helps with your swearing vocabulary! :lol:
Thats why I have a system in place on my outings. That is, usually I will fly fish as I first get out whilst there is little wind. Even though I can cast better with a bit of wind. But the calm surface shows if any fish is attacking my fly. :grin: Then when I get tired of casting or the weather worsens, usually when the wind picks up. I then revert to conventional gear.
If I were in your shoes. Oh I mean kayak. :lol: I would try & replicate your top water spin fishing to fly fishing for bream & whiting by trying to imitate the same tackle & actions. Mostly the poppers & lures. I know you cannot, or its very difficult to cast a Sammy or a diving lure but you can use similar, shorter, thinner & lighter patterns in the same colours as your most succesful lures. :wink:
I really like my popper flys that I made recently. Check my earlier posts. They are very easy to make &cast. Just glue the hooks in place. I dont think you have to make them so fancy either. Just colour them like a natural prawn in light greens or browns. Or your favourite Sammy colours. And tie on those tenticles that you do on your lures & thats it. :lek:
I am not so fond of white for popper flys so I would colour them with your permanent markers & leave the bread for bait fishing. I think. :roll:
Gee I cant wait to get to Foster one day to say Hi! to all your big bream! :lol:
Good luck. :grin:
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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby Freewily » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:06 pm

Oh nearly forgot. Have a close look at the fly this whiting took. The wire in front of the red thread is actually the long shank of the popper hook. It is just a long shank with a bit of a bend halfway. Not twisted wire like it looks in the photo. I think it shook off the popper or it attacked what it thought was a prawn if the popper body fell off. :grin: The hook just had the red thread & tan feathers tied on. :grin:
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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby arpie » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:00 pm

....It really helps with your swearing vocabulary! .....

hahaha It sure does, Will!! I think some people learned a few new words in the waterfront houses, too! :roll:

Between the wind & the current, I find I am stripping a lot of line & the 'fly' is just sitting there ...... moving 'eventually'!! It is SO easy casting on the grass with a bit of fluff! :lol: NO comparison to the resistance of the line grabbing the salt water in 'picking it up' to cast!!

Time on the water & technique will make a difference ..... also 'trying too hard' & using too much power probably doesn't help! :?:

Maybe I just need to go a lot lighter too - my 7wt TFO BVK tho lovely - is 'reasonably' heavy when doing a cast of thousand! :cry:

I may end up looking to swap it with something lighter in the 3-5 range ...... I will persevere with it in the mean time tho!

Many thanks for the advice. Will be having 2 x Half Days with Brian Henderson next week & week after, with practise in between - with Michelle coming up to join me.

cheers

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Re: NEARLY got my first bream on topwater fly!

Postby Freewily » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:04 am

Yes Roberta. Trying too hard with too much power still gets me. I start off OK with good controlled casting then I just try to cast further & further which stuffs everything up. :lol:
I did this my last outing when the line just landed a few metres in front of me in a coiled lump. :lol:
So I then re organised myself & wound in a few metres of line & went back to softer controlled casting which worked a treat. I found that I was getting more casts that counted. :grin:
This also helps your fatigue levels too. :wink:
Cant wait to get back on the water to have another. :lek:
Have fun. :grin:
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