Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

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Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

Postby arpie » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:39 am

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It's a while since anyone has posted about stabilising their yak with some sort of outriggers or side supports! There are lots of ideas available out there .....

Way back in 2007 when I first got my Hobie - I had a couple of very scary 'whooopsy moments' here in Wallis Lake, when one time with a sudden wind shift, the water suddenly became like a washing machine & I felt VERY vulnerable as I was almost certain I was going to tip over. After tying up to a pole for ages, I HAD to make the run for home & I was surfing waves 'sideways', leaning into the wave to keep stable - also using the paddle as well as the pedals to keep myself upright & it was STILL touch & go! It was a serious 'Whoooops'' moment!

Another time, it was after a flood event up the river & there was SO much fresh water in the lake, the slightest swell on the lake ALSO made the yak very unstable - there is different buoyancy when there is a lot of water in the system ....... I immediately thought .... I need to do something about this!!

So back then, I worked on a buoyancy system that would work for me. I didn't want outriggers 'as such' cos I still wanted to be able to access the various leases in the lake & the outriggers on poles would prevent me from getting thru the gaps in the fences!!

I saw these pics online & thought I could adjust them to suit my yak - I just didn't like the idea of tying them on.
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The yak was quite stable, even when broaching a wave
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SO, I came up with THIS idea! They need to be sited on or just below the waterline and I positioned them between the mirage drive & my seat, so I could reach them comfortably (NB the attachment site must be 'measured up' with your weight in the yak in the water.)
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Using clips like the bottom one properly secured to the side of the yak, it is easy to clip the buoy on 'when needed'. When NOT needed, just undo the front clip & the buoy floats alongside the yak - or just remove them & store them behind the seat, clipping them onto the bungee cord for safety.
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You can use these ones too, if you like - boat fenders (available from any boat/tackle shop!)
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These should work well offshore as well as inshore - for that little bit more stability, without having big poles across your yak or interfering with retrieval of your fish!

cheers

Roberta

Below is my 'original' post about them with lots of relevant comments -I had originally made the stirrups as part of my stakeout pole kit - but the stirrups I used back then just weren't up to holding the stakeout pole as well as the buoys in the current - so DON'T use Stirrups as a Stakeout pole 'stopper' :beye: : (See the pic of the clip above!) These days, I just use the paddle bungee to hold my stakeout pole & it works a treat! I slide it thru 'one half' of the elastic (even with the paddle in place.) When I need it, I just grab the ski pole handle & ram it into the sand & if I want to hold my position at a specific angle against wind or current, I use the other one too! To release it, just pull it out of the sand & the bungee will 'lay it down' for you! :gu: It will hold position, even in reasonably swift shallow water. I don't even bother taking an anchor with me any more.

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Re: Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

Postby Bassifier » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:27 pm

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Re: Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

Postby canaryfisher » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:29 am

With my outriggers I can stand up..though its hard as I'm tall and the centre of gravity is a lil off due to that.
My dad made them for me.. think I posted a pic but I'll post one again.

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Re: Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

Postby arpie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:58 am

Well done, Dad, CF!! Yes, even if I AM more stable in mine (with both stakeout poles in position & the buoys as well) ..... I also have great difficulty in actually doing the 'standing up' bit! Anyone with a video would have a fine time with me struggling to stand up! :roll:

I think a 'value add' to the outriggers is if they can 'fold in' when you DON'T need them tho ..... cos they still provide a certain amount of support but if you are in narrow territory, won't affect you going into some areas like oyster racks & tree'd areas (barra & bass fishing.)

The REAL added bonus of having outriggers (like the AIs) is that if/when you go offshore and DO develop a leak/crack - you have protection from sinking!! :wink:

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Re: Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

Postby Edstar » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:00 pm

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This was my outrigger until I sold it. Single side coz I didn't want to much drag on the sprinter and less interference for fish fighting. It is a telescopic scrubbing broom handle with a male thread. PVC attachments with female thread. And a boat fender. It was meant to be in arms length but it was only just. Making it hard to adjust on the water but not impossible. Any closer it was gonna interfere with either my hatch access or paddle stroke.

Still never tried standing from it thou.

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Re: Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

Postby arpie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:03 pm

haha That's cool, Edstar!! I like the use of things from around the house! :wink:

I am sure there would be some sort of 'swivel thing' that should allow one or both outriggers to be adjustable into the side of the yak, like the AI (Hobie Adventure Islands) do.

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Re: Stabilising your yak with outriggers/side supports

Postby Brendon » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:38 pm

Hi Roberta here is an outrigger outfit of Yakyakkers which I modded by adding a Haka board for last years Kalbarri classic when he was kind enough to loan me his Hobie Adventure for the event .I have now added a Finn Kayaks out rigger kit to my Hobie revolution and will add some photos of that shortly .

Yakyakker very kindly loaned me his Finn Outrigger equipped Hobie Adventure kayak for the recent Kalbarri offshore comp and he had added a wide piece of plywood that was screwed to the out rigger and also secured with rope .
He suggested to me if the launches look hairy I should leave the board off so as to be able to paddle well with a double paddle and this got me thinking about how I could quickly attach a board and have it slide in and out so as to allow me to paddle strongly on launch and then bring the board along side the cockpit when in mirage drive mode. I remembered hearing that the Hobie H-rail clamps could also attach to round tube so I decided to have a play .
They actually fit the fin supplied tubes well but you cant clamp them tight enough to prevent rotation around the tube but does not matter for this application as they are bolted to the board which I made from some plywood I had lying around .
With a H-rail flat plate bolted to each end of the plywood plank that was about 350mm wide and 1500mm long and the clamp locking screw left loose you can easily slide the board in and out so long as you keep the board square . Adding another one or two plates would help keep it square whilst moving . removing is simply a matter of un latching the clamps and twisting the board slightly and off it comes . I threw a scotty base onto the board and if I had more than the couple of hours would have worked out some way to attach my home made kill bag (two windscreen shade taped together into a bag $8) as this proved to be a drama on the water .

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In practice I was very happy how it all worked .I shortened Pauls adjustable paddle down and paddling out was no issue as the board was right out over the ama whilst on the water . Once I was comfortably out I pulled it close and it was great for sitting tackle boxes and rods etc on and then once I had a fish on board it was perfect for storing a long fish like a mackerel . I did not have time to work how to secure a fish bag easily but ended up using short buckle traps and some light cord but it would have been good to have tie down points screwed into
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