SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby Biggles » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:31 pm

yaqdoq wrote:If you are reading this thread and wondering if this is for you - put your name down . The imparted knowladge under expert tutaledge will be a lifesaver . Should be a great social event too !
Kudos to Kayakone for pushing this through ! :cool:


I concur guys, if by some chance you are sitting on the fence wondering if you should or should not, then raise your hand and have a crack, I wish there was something like this when I first started :cool:

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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:22 pm

Thanks Paul and Al.

Lachiemack (Lachie) has just joined up, so room for one more only folks............
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:34 pm

Here's what we're in for, if it blows 40 knots... :lol:

Just kidding....no cancellations please at this stage. :D The video does show the very high levels of skill that can be obtained by both skills training theory, and practice on the water, i.e. the real world. And that is what we're doing in 2 weeks (without the 40 knots hopefully).


http://vimeo.com/56926839
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby J-P » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:11 am

Hi Kayakone,
Sorry to disappoint but I have to cancel due to some health issues.
If all goes well I hope to attend next year. Fingers Crossed.
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:55 pm

Just over a week to go guys and gals.

It is a very busy programme, so please make sure you are on time.


In this regard, note the printable programme below:

ALL ATTENDEES: (Please disregard the environment and print) :lol:

PROGRAMME: KAYAK SAFETY DAY (sponsored by Adventure Outlet and Australian Kayak Specialists)

1. 5.30 - 6.30 am - Registering and payment of Safety Day training fee ($ 42 cash only).

(2a). 5.55 - 6.25 am (latest ordering time) - Brekkie at Reef Point Café - if you like (best to book a day or two ahead, by phoning 3045 0604 - see previous post for menu).

2. 6.45 am - Deadline for all kayaks on the beach ready to go.

3. 6.55 am - Welcome and introduction - outline of general format by Trev (kayakone).

4. 7.00 - 9.00 am - Gary Forrest: Formal instruction on safety aspects of kayaking, paddling techniques, etc., including:

A. Kayak fit out, and differing kayak types / Gear – essentials, and extra toys

B. Winds – current, beach conditions, swell, seas

C. Safety gear on board and cold water (anything under 26 C) rescue and risk management

D. Getting home without a paddle (or mirage drive)

E. Weather reading (trip planning / early am assessment from internet / at launch assessment of actual weather conditions

F. Forward paddling technique / reverse and sweep strokes / towing a disabled kayak

5. 9.00 - 9.20 am - Morning tea/coffee break (by Adventure Outlet and Australian Kayak Specialists) )

6. 9.20 - 10.30 am - Practice point 4 content (mainly F) on the water in groups of up to 7 total .

7. 10.30 am - 11.00 am - Debrief of point 6, followed by instruction on beach launching and landing techniques.

8. 11.00 - 11.30 am - Brief (on the beach) of WET exercises:

A. Kayak stability (knowing your limits) * can you unhook that lure that's caught on the front/rear of your yak? / * can you sit side saddle? / * can you reach right around behind you and get the spare rod? / * how far can you lean to one side without capsize?

B. Falling off and re-entry: Safety techniques such as re-entry - without and with a tape stirrup / kayak capsize and re-entry / off kayak, but waiting till wind blows kayak away, before attempting to swim for it…re-entry.

C. At this point in the exercises, all to form a circle around Trev. Trev will fall off, with rods and lines deployed, possibly get entanglement, and whatever…. The aim of this exercise is to duplicate the real world of falling off/capsizing a fishing kayak. Discuss procedures before re-entry (housework - getting rid of impediments/dangers to successful re-entry, such as gaff leash in the way; line/leash entanglement).....aka 'reality bites'.

D. Safe landing of a fish (time permitting).

9. 11.15 am - 12.45 pm - WET exercises, including all of A - D above. Warning - wet & cold for 1.5 hours! Dress accordingly.

10. 1.00 – 1.30 pm - Debrief of WET exercises

11.
1.30 pm - Super Lunch and drinks (supplied by Adventure Outlet and Australian Kayak Specialists) - sponsors)

12. Post lunch: - Gary will demonstrate some gear/kit supplied by Adventure Outlet and Australian Kayak Specialists) .

13. Demo kayaks session and gear for sale.[/quote]


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Please also note the weather warning, and the local café menu and the need to pre-book, if you require this:

ALL ATTENDEES:


Please note:
This event will proceed regardless of weather (unless there is a cyclone or a destructive thunderstorm forecast). Strong winds and/or rain will not be grounds for postponing this event. If the weather is bad, come prepared clothing-wise, and bring some spare clothing - (two sets thereof), so you are dry and warm (from 6.30 - 11.15 am), until the WET EXERCISES (11.15 am - 12.45 pm).

Come early for a fish if you want to (but later in the day is more practical):
First hint of light is around 4.10 am, sunrise at 5.14 am. The reefs are 15 minutes paddle away from the beach (to the east)....alternatively stay late for a fish. If you select the early option, you will need to be on the water by about 4.00 am, as there are deadlines for having your kayak and gear ready at 6.45 am. If possible, allow most of the day - there is a lot to cover.




1. 5.30 - 6.30 am

Registering and payment of Safety Day training day fee.



2a. 5.55 am

Brekkie at Reef Point Café - if you like (best to book a day or two ahead if you are keen for this, by phoning 3045 0604).

Menu:

* Reef Point big brekkie- 2 x crispy bacon, eggs, grilled tomato, sautéed mushrooms, 2 x chipolatas, 2 x hash browns & soft toast - it’s huge!! - $ 19

* Lambs fry and crispy bacon - tender lambs fry with grilled tomato, lots of rich gravy & soft toast - $ 18

* Bacon & eggs served with panini toast - $ 12

* Eggs as you like them on panini toast (poached, fried or ( scrambled = +$1) - $ 9

*Mushrooms on Panini toast – finished with sweet balsamic, spinach, grilled tomato & fetta - $ 14

* All served including a tea or coffee of your choice.


You ought to bring at least two spare changes of clothes.

The registration fee of $ 42 has to be paid in cash (no card/plastic facilities available, but it can be paid directly to me by PM ahead - PM for bank details, and that will reduce workloads for me on the day). I will have quite a few low cost safety items available for sale on the day, so please bring some extra cash (whistles, safety knives, dive knives in locking scabbard - leg mounted). These items are in the $ 20 - $30 price range, again cash only for these basic safety items.

Adventure Outlet and Australian Kayak Specialists (AKS) will have some well priced gear available, as well as kayaks, and this can be purchased by plastic/cards. These retailers have helped to make this possible, so please support them. They are providing morning tea and lunch. Don't forget their demo kayaks session after lunch ... about 2.00 pm on.
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby Brissyfisho » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:15 pm

Looking forward to it Trev - though a bit disconcerted by all the warnings about a couple of hours of wet, cold 'fun'.

Good timing for me as it turns out as I'll be able to bring my new yak.
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:12 pm

Brissyfisho wrote:Looking forward to it Trev - though a bit disconcerted by all the warnings about a couple of hours of wet, cold 'fun'.

Good timing for me as it turns out as I'll be able to bring my new yak.



"Wet cold 'fun' ". Substitute wet cold 'pain', or worse disaster, if you don't have the skills. That is what it is all about...if the sh*t hits the fan, do you have the skills/training to deal with it?

Hopefully, come close of day 13 October, you will. See you soon.
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby Cranny » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:37 am

Hi Trev

Only just seen this thread, and wonder if it's too late to register?
Cheers

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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby Brissyfisho » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:10 am

Hey Trev, I know the answer is probably somewhere in this thread, but where exactly at scarby is the assembly point?
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:54 am

Brissyfisho wrote:Hey Trev, I know the answer is probably somewhere in this thread, but where exactly at scarby is the assembly point?


kayakone wrote:ALL ATTENDEES:

The address is: Carpark to the left off Reef Point Esplanade, Scarborough. Note, all parking from the middle of the carpark to the Western end. NO PARKING close to Reef Point Cafe. There will be four carparks reserved for those with trailers (allowing splitting).
Overflow parking in Reef Point Esplanade, and the carpark for the Scarborough Boat Harbour (a short concrete path joins this parking area to the one adjacent the event).


The event will be held on the beach west of where 'the Spit' joins the beach, unless there is an E - SE wind blowing, in which case we can spread out a bit more (parachute landing zone near 'the Spit' in NE - N winds). This is the northern most beach at Scarborough.

https://maps.google.com/maps/empw?url=h ... mbed&hl=en
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:12 pm

Cranny wrote:Hi Trev

Only just seen this thread, and wonder if it's too late to register?



Phil

Contact me by PM ASAP. Also, read your PM's.
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:21 pm

Cranny wrote:Hi Trev

Only just seen this thread, and wonder if it's too late to register?



Cranny
Contact me by PM ASAP please.
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby glenndini » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:02 pm

Here are a couple of maps showing routes from North and South.

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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:04 pm

Thanks heaps Glenn for those maps.

(Glenn is a former attendee who got heaps of useful info from his attendance at an earlier safety day).
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Re: SE QLD - Safety Day # 3 - Sunday 13th October 2013

Postby kayakone » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:49 pm

Six days to go. Print programme below....

KAYAK SAFETY DAY (sponsored by Adventure Outlet and Australian Kayak Specialists) - PROGRAMME
1. 5.30 - 6.30 am - Registering and payment of Safety Day training day fee.
(2a). 5.55 - 6.20 am (latest ordering time) - Brekkie at Reef Point Café - if you like (best to book a day or two ahead if you are keen for this, by phoning 3045 0604).
2. 6.45 am - Deadline for all kayaks on the beach ready to go. Group photos.
3. 6.55 am - Welcome and introduction - outline of general format by Trev (kayakone).
4. 7.00 - 9.00 am - Gary Forrest: Formal instruction on safety aspects of kayaking, paddling techniques, etc., including:
A. Kayak fit out, and differing kayak types / Gear – essentials, and extra toys
B. Winds – current, beach conditions, swell, seas
C. Safety gear on board and cold water rescue (anything under 26 C) and risk management
D. Weather reading (trip planning / just prior to launching / on beach assessment
E. Forward paddling technique / reverse and sweep strokes / towing a disabled kayak
5. approx. 9.00 - 9.30 am - Morning tea/coffee break (by Adventure Outlet & Australian Kayak Specialists)
6. 9.30 - 10.30 am - Practice point # 4 content on the water in groups of up to 7 total.
7. 10.30 am - 11.00 am - Debrief of #6, followed by instruction on beach launching and landing techniques.
8. 11.00 - 11.30 am - Brief (on the beach) WET exercises:
A * can you unhook that lure that's caught on the front/rear of your yak? / * can you sit side saddle? / * can you reach right around behind you and get the spare rod? / * how far can you lean to one side without capsize?
B. Falling off and re-entry:
*Without and with a tape stirrup / *now practice kayak capsize and re-entry /* off kayak, but waiting till wind blows kayak away, before attempting to swim for it…re-entry.
C. At this point in the exercises, all to form a circle around Trev. Trev will fall off, with rods and lines deployed, possibly get entanglement, and whatever…. The aim of this exercise is to duplicate the real world of falling off/capsizing a fishing kayak. Discuss procedures before re-entry (housework - getting rid of impediments/dangers to successful re-entry, such as gaff leash in the way; line/leash entanglement).....aka 'reality bites'.
D. Safe landing of a fish (time permitting).
9. 11.15 - 12.45 pm - WET exercises, including all of A - D above.
10. 1.00 pm – 1.30 am - Debrief of WET exercises
11. 1.30 pm - Super Lunch and drinks (supplied by Adventure Outlet and Australian Kayak Specialists - sponsors)
12. Post lunch: - Gary will demonstrate some gear/kit supplied by the AO and AKS.
13. Demo kayaks session, followed by, anyone for a fish…?
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