Some good points there Dru.dru wrote:FWIW, and we'Ve been down this chat many times, so apologise in advance if my thoughts upset people.
First an EPIRB and a PLB do fundamentally the same thing, call in the troupes to save your arse. An EPIRB is really designed so they can find the boat. A PLB is designed to find a human.
So NO, do t stow it in a hatch. Keep it in a pocket or a PFD pocket. You want it on you or it's no better than an EPIRB.
In order to make an EPIRB small enough to fit in a pocket there are some compromises. Mainly it is smaller, so a smaller battery and most are only rated to 24hours.
An EPIRB is required to last 48 hours.
It'll take a plane/helicopter less than an hour to find you in most populated areas of AUS. But they might not launch in the dark with little chance of success. So with a 24 hour life span you might think before firing it up at dusk. You'd want to be comfortable of surviving the night, if not fire it up.
Both EPIRB and PLB come in versions with or without GPS. Accuracy with GPS is a few m. Accuracy without is several 100m. Pay your money and take your chances.
On legality. If you get caught off shore without an EPIRB by an officer going to the pedantic limit of law, you will get a fine. If you just used your PLB to allow them to save a life, right, they are going to issue a fine? Sure. I'll bet they'll be using the incidence to broadcast the use of proper safety equipment.
My 'abbreviation speak' is very limited (probably due my vintage and the company I keep, online) so it leaves me wondering but probably not really wanting to know the translation.
Anyway, thanks for your patience with those who may have been as you suggested 'upset' by your 'thoughts'. (not me).
You have made very worthy mention of the 'letter of the law' and the likelihood of fines that may nudge some (including me) into getting an EPIRB before venturing offshore into water beyond the legal limits with just a PLB.
The fishing in my area is reasonable within the inshore limitation areas but there is always the temptation to go further in fine weather to get to the outer reefs including the local artificial reef.
Of course that also would mean buying a GPS location device to find these areas and a knowledge of where the hell these patches are located.
As per the above 'quote' (of my own previous post) I would still like some knowledgeable feedback or thoughts on the scenario I described. Thanks.Plakkyboat wrote:Excellent set up Brendon.
This makes me think about Tony's mention of the EPIRB not working unless it gets wet.
If the EPIRB does in fact start up when it gets wet or flips upside down (not sure how it works), then what happens if you flip your kayak but you can safely get back on and don't need rescuing?
Do you get enough time to prevent it going off when the situation is not actually an emergency and you don't want to initiate a full scale rescue by default?
Looking forward to some enlightenment on this scenario.