Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

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Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby ua5qb » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:43 am

Upgrading the AI to new bigger model, may sell it with the above Lowrance installed, to be decided.

What do I upgrade to is the question, there seems to be so many models in the market, very confusing. Would like a slightly bigger screen, GPS, download to computer via card, structure/topology, maybe even see fish as they swim past my lure/bait.

Already having a unit I haven't been following the trends, what is CHIRP. Besides the sound of bird in a tree?
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby Jarryda » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:59 pm

Lowrance Elite 7 Ti would be a great upgrade from the Elite 5. Does everything you want, GPS, 7 touch inch screen, Downscan and with the Totalscan transducer it will also do Sidescan. The Elite Ti also has CHIRP.

Chirp is multiple frequency sonar. Which means it uses more than just 1 frequency unlike traditional sonar which uses a single, ie 83khz or 200khz. Benefits are higher clarity, better target separation (more separation in bait and also fish holding on the bottom for eg), works much better when going down drop offs. These are just some of the benefits.
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby johnh » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:11 pm

Jarryda wrote:Lowrance Elite 7 Ti.

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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby PiscatorialPursuit » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:12 pm

johnh wrote:
Jarryda wrote:Lowrance Elite 7 Ti.

+1


A few weeks ago i would've agreed with this statement. Now however, unless touch screen is a deal breaker, i would suggest taking a look at Garmin.
The striker 7SV is selling for under $800.
http://www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Garm ... inder.html.
It has no mapping however, just a GPS like the old style handhelds.
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby ua5qb » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:36 pm

Maps is one of the things I would like.

Visited a RTM shop nearly got convince to by a Raymarine unit, it sounded very functional for under $1k even recorded underwater terrain creating topo map. Also had wifi to upgrade software and exchange map info without need for a cable, head unit can share the map/GPS info with others on their smart phone.

I still like the Lowrance 7 although touch is not that important, messy finger marks allover the screen etc.

Although Lowrance don't make it easy to check their products on the website. Same product description with different prices listed -
Elite-7 Ti $10499,
Elite-7 Ti with Mid/High/DownScan Transducer $1049,
Elite-7 Ti with Mid/High/DownScan and Aus/NZ Nav+Chart $1299,
Elite-7 Ti with Mid/High/TotalScan and Aus/NZ Nav+ Chart $1399

Even mixed 5 Ti models in with 7 to further confuse me!

Will 7Ti transducer fit into AI under hull mount?
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby johnh » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:48 pm

The downscan model will fit in the standard mount but the totalscan will hang out the bottom with the available adapters.

There is an option to mount the totalscan transducer in a wet mount inside the hull of the TI. Totally Immersed Watersports in Nowra sell the mount.
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby PiscatorialPursuit » Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:12 am

A cheaper option to the Ti models is the Hook variants.
7 inch model with cartography comes in around 7 or 800 from memory.
Basically the same features as your existing elite 5. No wifi or side imaging however.
Has mapping and downscan. Great units too.
I have its predecessor, elite 7hdi on one of my natives and find it to work well without the need to run two batteries devoted soley to it, unlike the Ti models. Perhaps not an issue if your tril duration is small
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby sid_fishes » Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:47 am

iv,e just brought the Garmin echomap 75sv
it has buttons as i dont like the touch screen on the lowrance ti. itcomes with a total scan tranny so i down ,side and whatever else and chirp
i,m wait=ing on my berleypro tranny mount and visor so i can test this weekend
just my thoughts

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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby CAV » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:18 am

Another vote for the Raymarine here.
Better waterproofing then anything else out on the market -which is important considering you'll be using it on a kayak.
Dragonfly Pro's come with a wifi link so you can use an iPad or similar as a second screen.
And I must say my readings i get from my current unit (a 4 DVS - same as the pro minus maps and wifi link) are better than any lowrance or hummingbird unit I've owned previously
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby ua5qb » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:58 am

PiscatorialPursuit wrote:A cheaper option to the Ti models is the Hook variants.
7 inch model with cartography comes in around 7 or 800 from memory.
Basically the same features as your existing elite 5. No wifi or side imaging however.


Was wondering what the 'Hook' models are. A comparison matrix of Lowrance products would help make the decision regarding which model suits the customer need.

PiscatorialPursuit wrote: Has mapping and downscan. Great units too.


Does downscan differentiate the detail, i.e.. rock, tree, kelp, sand, etc.

PiscatorialPursuit wrote:I have its predecessor, elite 7hdi on one of my natives and find it to work well without the need to run two batteries devoted soley to it, unlike the Ti models. Perhaps not an issue if your tril duration is small


2 batteries!
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby PiscatorialPursuit » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:59 am

Seems that many in PA's running 7 inch Ti's are finding one 12v 9ah battery insufficent for a days fishing.
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby ua5qb » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:00 am

Hmm, beginning to think I should buy an Elite 7 CHIRP keep thing functional and simple. Although the web site has it listed as Elite 7 HDI.

CHSmith says Lowrance Hook-7 CHIRP Fishfinder Combo is the latest replacement for the Elite 7 CHIRP.

If Lowrance is trying to confuse me they are doing a very good job...
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby PiscatorialPursuit » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:48 pm

Elite 7 HDI with Chartplotter
http://www.lowrance.com/en-au/Products/Elite/
Reckon that if you are still finding these new that its older stock & maybe worth chasing a significant discount on marked price.
Maybe even do a ring around n see who still has some n chase down a great deal.

Hook 7
http://www.lowrance.com/en-au/Products/ ... en-au.aspx
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby ua5qb » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:28 am

Made the mistake of going into BCF and comparing the Lowrance and Garmin screens. The Garmin 75sv combo is on special at present $1199.00 ends 5/10! The screen clarity is superior which is the main reason for the upgrade.

Very very tempting...
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Re: Upgrading from Lawrence Eltie 5 what next?

Postby Nativeman » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:35 pm

ua5qb wrote:Made the mistake of going into BCF and comparing the Lowrance and Garmin screens. The Garmin 75sv combo is on special at present $1199.00 ends 5/10! The screen clarity is superior which is the main reason for the upgrade.

Very very tempting...


Mate I have the G 95SV in my ship, crisp screen, and live Quick Draw... OMG need I say more
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