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How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby Cubits » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:51 pm

Hey all, i've been wrestling with a tough decision for the burgeoning pelagic season here in SEQ.

After catching my first mackerel by accident in the bay on 8lb line, i've been super keen to get stuck into the bigger stuff available offshore. Tuna, snapper, spanish mackerel, cobia... It's all way beyond the reach of my two spin rods (1-3kg and 2-5kg, 6lb and 8lb line respectively) and one fly rod (8wt).

I'm tossing up between an overhead like the Shimano TLD25 or a 6000-sized Penn Spinfisher V, filled with 30lb braid (that'll do, right?), and stuck on some 6ft'ish rod. BCF has a reasonable TLD combo on a 15-24kg rod, it sounds seriously heavy-duty!

I guess the Spinfisher will be better for casting metals into surface bait schools should i happen across one, but i'll most often be trolling and the TLD holds a mile of line and can put on serious hurt.

God, i should get both, shouldn't i? But which one first?
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby NorthSIKer » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:22 pm

30lb will be more than enough even for the biggest mackerel. Much better fisherman than myself (there are plenty :lol: ) suggest real anglers don't need more than 20lb for even the biggest spaniards. Mackerel and tuna fight clean so don't need heavy line. Mackerel tire pretty easily, tuna are tougher but neither have great stamina.

Just need to ensure you can hold enough line for the runs (300m is great) and a smooth drag all the way. Smooth drag more so than high end drag - I doubt you would ever use more than 5kg drag from a kayak and for macs and tuna (up to 20kg or so) wont' ever need more. I am hardly a big pelagic specialist but get lucky occasionally and only fish 3-4kg drag on the big rod.

I don't know the overhead reels but if you go with a spinning reel suggest look at the Spheros or Saragosa over the Spinfisher. Better built and those two shimano's are as close to waterproof as you can get on a mid-range reel.
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby Whisky » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:01 pm

Saragosa was on sale last week at Dinga. I just received a 8000SW for $227, same price as a similar Spheros. But it is back to normal now.
I have two Spheros 5000SW, 10000SW and they are ridiculously waterproof.
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby Cubits » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:23 am

The spheros/saragosa look the goods; all of my other spinning reels have been shimano and even my crap 15 year old cx1000r is still going strong. The Penns seem to hold more line which is what attracted me (also dat gold!), but I'll just upsize the shimanos to deal with it.

Still super curious about owning an overhead reel though, they look so neat! :p
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby Brendon » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:27 pm

Can't comment on Tuna but 4000 shimano stradics with 20 lb braid and 40 lb leader delt with Mackeral to 20kg for me .
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby Chopperdog82 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:01 pm

Saragosa in 5 or 6k is probably heaps in a kayak. Can't use all of the drag at that size. I flog a pair on my jetski, so they'll handle kayak spray. Rod depends on if you fish bait or lures. I dropped a heap of tuna with an ultra fast rod last summer though. Between it and braid there was no give for sudden secondary runs.
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby Chopperdog82 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:03 pm

Watch those dinga deals too. My 6k was $202 posted. Amazing value
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby yaqdoq » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:59 am

Tld 15 ,
Fin Nor offshore 4500
300 yds of 30lb with about a 100 - 150 m of 15kg backing

These are my two recommendations - both last and require minimal care . Both are inexpensive :grin:

Good luck for the season
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Re: How much reel do i need for mackerel and tuna?

Postby unsinkable 2 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:44 pm

Saragosa 5k is my favourite reel atm. Just spent 10 days at fraser with no washing and plenty of sand and absolutely nothing (sand or water) got inside. Keeps impressing me which is quite the opposite to most fishing gear.
I love my penn jigmasters for overheads for the exact same reason (plenty of line capacity too). TLDs are nice but nowhere near as durable. Go the 15 if that's what you do get. 25 is pretty much too big for the yaks.

30lb line is plenty for macks. Also fine for tuna so long as your rod has a bit of grunt to it and as for cobes, it depends on whether targeting them near structure.

IMO grab a decent spin setup first as they are more versatile (can cast or troll), but overheads are definitely the go if trolling is the main technique.

Hopefully you get stuck into a few!
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I caught a cobia which could eat the rest except for the mackerel which could also probably eat a lot of the things
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