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bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questions

Postby Paulioq » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:20 am

hello I picked up a second hand stealth profish 525 from kayak specialist but have a few questions and am wondering if any one can help with the sounder install and paddle selection. firstly the paddle I will be getting a flat blade so I can back stroke and use it to stear but am wondering is carbon fiber that much better/stiffer/lighter then fiberglass paddles. obviously a selling point but not sure if its $320 better then the $185 fiberglass paddle. not on a budget really and want to get the right stuff first time around just tighter then a pipi straight out of the sand and am not compeating so am leaning towards the fiberglass unit with glass paddles and shaft not only that the carbon paddles are a month away because there out of stock till the container of stock arrives.

about the sounder install am thinking of getting a garmin echomap45 and the transducer will be installed under the knee but about installing the head unit, is the moulded stealth fish hatch cover left on for surf entry or is swaped over once through the breakers? is it just a cover that goes over the original cover or is it a replacement cover? because I would like to leave it as a permanent replacement but if its is just a velcroed on cover I will just use the factory garmin mount on the standard cover and take the sounder unit off that with cabbles attached (just going to leave them pokeing out under the hatch lid) so I can put the unit away in surf. any thoughts or ideas are appreciated thank you in advance
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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby Jamie D » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:48 am

The Moulded sounder cover is a replacement hatch lid with the area for the sounder permanently there to install your sounder head , you will need to cut the area out that your sounder requires . Regarding paddles , I go for carbon blades at least Because there’s less flex in the paddle blade and that way you transfer more power down into the water and you’ll need that when you’re powering through Surf wash . Personally I always preferred a wing blade to a flat blade but there is no correct answer there it really is I like chocolate you like strawberry
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Postby Paulioq » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:29 pm

thanks for replying. the cover looks like a good idea but all the info I haved found about it so far says some thing about a Velcro strap so you can take it off in surf, cheers for clarifying that. about paddles, ok I thought as much that It was personal choice just my other kayak is a hobie haven't had much to do with paddles in the past. carbon is obviously better for a reason just don't want to buy one because it looks good that's not how I roll(we'll see how I role when a wave dumps me)
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Postby FishnDive » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:51 pm

With the hatch lids, the velro splash strip was more designed so you can interchange the hatch lids if you wanted to leave the sounder at home, say if you are just heading down for a play in the surf rather than changing just to go through the breakers. Having said that, all of the guys I know with the flushmount lid don't tend to change them over. The advantage of the moulded in lid is that you can fill the connectors with dielectric grease or similar at the start and then leave them connected to help prevent corrosion as wiring left in moist hulls with salt water gets the green death pretty quickly.

As for paddles, as Jamie D said its personal preference, but in general the stiffer the blade the more power transferred which is what most people want unless they have had prior shoulder issues. The stiff flat blade will give a nice brace in the surf too, but if you do go carbon you need to look after it but then the areas that would cause issues are not the sort of place you take a glass ski either so you should be right.
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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby Paulioq » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:14 pm

so we have 2 votes for the carbon paddle hmm sounds like there worth the 4 week wait just wouldn't mind getting out on the new yak sooner then that :gu:
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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby laneends » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:25 pm

If you are covering distances , and isn't that why you got a stealth, then saving a bit of weight x thousands of strokes reduces fatigue. No point spending $$ only to spend $$ later. carbon paddles are stronger than you might at first think. Think also about actual blade size. Big is more power, but also more fatiguing in long paddles in heavy conditions. A bit like being stuck in high gear going up hill.

If you want to use paddle for extensive manoeuvring strokes rather than relying on rudder longer paddle increases effectiveness of sweep strokes etc. Flat blades are easier for manoeuvring also.
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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby Marty75 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:02 pm

Definitely get a carbon one if you can. Light as a feather and nice and stiff. I wouldn't spend the coin on a new one (but that's just me) but there are always a few 2nd hand bargains around on gumtree and eBay around the $100 mark. I picked up a great condition full carbon flare blade paddle for $100 on gumtree 2 mins drive from my place.

As for sounder installs I use a removable cutting board set up that fits inside the hatch during surf launches and I use a length of curved 3mm aluminium bar velcroed to the side for the transducer mount. I saw a really good idea posted on the Noosa kayakers page on FB utilising a generic adhesive action cam mount and the flat aluminium bar external mount that can be removed during surf launches as well.

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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby Paulioq » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:16 pm

well looks like I'm getting a carbon paddle then, have been looking around theres not much around second hand with out a yak attached to it. guess I am going to have to wait for kayak professional to get his delivered. out of all honesty I have just been tyre kicking and keeping an eye on the market and didn't intend to by the stealth yet but this profisha 525 poped up for a good price and thought to good to let go. so if I have to wait a little while to use it is ok I can just sit it in the garage raffters for now. if I get desperate to take it out I can always get one of these :blah: :?: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Premium-220cm-Aluminum-Adjustable-Kayak-Canoe-Paddle-Split-Detachable-6-Colours/173313004158?hash=item285a42927e:m:mGodm7Nk3yyXtNNjSqvm5hA
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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby Jamie D » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:00 pm

Mate , the most important thing is that your on a profisha 525 and they are truely the Ferrari of Stealth kayaks a real weapon , I’d be doing the same as you and waiting til you get a good quality paddle to take it out that way your first impressions and experience of the kayak is with a paddle that allows you to feel the full quality of the boat and it’ll be worth the wait , like procuring the company of a beautiful lady and waiting until you get home to be intimate rather than shooting to the toilets
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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby Paulioq » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:17 pm

I did see those paddles on ebay bit far for me I am in manly in Brisbane not Sydney (yes there is a manly in Brisbane as well) pick up only.
Jamie D wrote: like procuring the company of a beautiful lady and waiting until you get home to be intimate rather than shooting to the toilets
that's one way of putting it lol nice. I think I just have to wait the stealth flat paddles have a hot shape to them and are at a good price for a carbon paddle. and I did get the stealth because it is the best machine for the job. just going to have to learn how to handle it
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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby NorthSIKer » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:52 pm

Not sure if you are handy with woodwork Paulioq (I certainly am not!).

If you are you could consider carving a greenland paddle out of a piece of 2x4. Plenty of instructions available via a google search. If you are handy with woodwork could cost very little.

They are surprising good and fast to paddle with (though take a bit of getting used to if you are used to regular paddles) and make an excellent spare /emergency paddle for when you eventually get a traditional one.
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Postby NorthSIKer » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:59 pm

By the way - this is a greenland paddle.

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Re: bought a stealth but have some sounder and paddle questi

Postby Paulioq » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:21 pm

gday northskier thanks for the suggestion I did have a look online there are some nice looking Greenland paddles and they seem to work alright unfortunately I also am not handy with woodwork but looks like a good project for one rainy day I scene anaconda have a sale on (they always seem to be on sale there like a rugs store but there better then bcf) might go there to have a look this weekend but there paddles are all carbon fiber reinforced plastic not hand laid. can see myself waiting for the container to land on the 30th that's bit less then 3 weeks away now :cry:
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