Side mount for electric outboard

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Side mount for electric outboard

#1 Post by Dodge » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:04 pm

The FINAL configuration of this mount is shown at the very end of this topic in my reply dated Thursday August 24, 2017

Decided to put an 18lb thrust electric outboard on the Swing, powered by a 35aH deep cycle battery to be located in the front hatch, did not want to risk turning to use the controls on the outboard or fiddle by touch behind my back, so leave switches set on Low speed 4.4km/h, and in Fwd as reverse will be easier using the paddle on a kayak, and will never use reverse at any stage.

For safety put an On/Off stitch next to my knee for emergency stop, or striking/playing a fish.

An 18lb OB has no built in tilt mechanism like the bigger sizes, so made the tilt on the mounting board

A couple of shaped timber blocks locate the mount around the rear hatch and stop it pushing forward under power, and the mount is held in place by ropes using moulded bars already in the deck, and a couple of saddles added behind, additionally to stop the OB driving forward an angled aluminium bar is screwed in place on the under side.
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On top of the board is a 25mm aluminium pipe pivot under saddles and the outboard clamp mount is screwed to the pipe, where the rope will cross the pipe a couple of blocks allow the pipe to be free when rope is tight
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With the outboard attached, the electric cable is connected just using a 3 pin plug for simplicity [inside the yellow ripstop nylon], the steering is locked on the OB and a DIY rudder with push/pull PVC pipe tiller steers the yak when travelling, the white cord is the lift for the rudder
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A rope is put over an existing cleat when tilted, from a small bar attached to the OB shaft
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#2 Post by Dodge » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:04 pm

The 35Ah deep cycle battery weighs 11kgs and fits nicely inside the front hatch
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From the battery the earth cable goes to the 3 pin plug on the back deck, the red positive cable comes out at my knee in the cockpit at an On/Off switch [now with clear plastic cover] and saves turning to play with the OB controls unless I want High speed, then turn it off before turning and altering the switch on motor to my mind removes any risks on the water tapping the wrong switch.
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With this set up cruise Low 4.4km/h, High 5.6km/h, and today rafted Yorkie up alongside in his Ouback and we cruised at 3km/h on low.

A view of the yak at low speed on the maiden run 10 days ago
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While I use the rudder I had, Seadog, also has an 18lb OB and easily steers by dipping his paddle to turn, the picture is from a bridge as he turns to left also with the OB steering locked.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#3 Post by yorkie2 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:27 pm

Dodge under power taken at Hinze Dam 4-6-2015.

Cruising at 4 km/h.

Looking good Dodge.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#4 Post by Wombat280 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:43 pm

Mate did this to his rig by taking the switches out of the head cover as that's all that's in there and mounted them in the cockpit alongside him then blanked off the holes in the head unit just to pretty it up. Thanks for the pics well done
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#5 Post by Penno » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:08 pm

Well done Richo,continually reinventing oneself.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#6 Post by Dodge » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:47 pm

Wombat280 wrote:Mate did this to his rig by taking the switches out of the head cover as that's all that's in there and mounted them in the cockpit alongside him then blanked off the holes in the head unit just to pretty it up. Thanks for the pics well done
Quite a few done like your mates seen on YouTube, and also others with the head removed and laid in the kayakers lap after extending the cables, the fact cables were running thru the hull figured it was easier to tap one and just add the new On/Off switch, leaving the motor preset for speed, and in Fwd.

And never intend to use reverse, but today put a blob of silicone on that switch so I cannot accidentally select reverse, after a mate had a little excitement hitting reverse in error yesterday.
Penno wrote:Well done Richo,continually reinventing oneself.
Penno had it in mind for quite a while, after seeing your original Evolve powered yak on the water at the club outing Paradise Point some years ago, and am enjoying the experience.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#7 Post by arpie » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:56 pm

Well done, Dodge! Great job! I like your 'tilt' contraption! :grin:

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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#8 Post by Dodge » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:20 am

Now have the final configuration on the water for the head of the outboard.

1... handle retracted
2... dobs of silicone on Fwd/Off/Rev switch to immobilize fully, and save accidental engaging of reverse, Hi/Low switch is OK
3... aluminium clamp on shaft for tilting one handed with PVC toggle, and cord loop to hook over horn of deck cleat
4... left clamp shortened and a Knead-it knob moulded, the original knob fouled the steering tiller when tilted and longer than required.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#9 Post by Estuary Girl » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:16 am

Great set up Dodge won't be able to keep up with you young fella's now.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#10 Post by yorkie2 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:15 am

That looks more like the go Dodge.

The mark two should be a lot more practical and neater.

Good job. Look forward to seeing you in action on the water on Wed at the social mid week outing at Nerang.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#11 Post by MKK » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:04 am

Here is my set up.

I went with a push / pull config for the steering which works great.

http://youtu.be/BzWGzsQRtDc

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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#12 Post by Dodge » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:00 pm

MKK wrote:Here is my set up.

I went with a push / pull config for the steering which works great.

http://youtu.be/BzWGzsQRtDc
That's a good and simple idea mate, like it a lot.

Stayed with the rudder on my Swing seeing I had it already it at home and often used when doing a mary poppins sail.
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#13 Post by MKK » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:40 am

Dodge wrote:
MKK wrote:Here is my set up.

I went with a push / pull config for the steering which works great.

http://youtu.be/BzWGzsQRtDc
That's a good and simple idea mate, like it a lot.

Stayed with the rudder on my Swing seeing I had it already it at home and often used when doing a mary poppins sail.
Cheers thanks, the mount to the motor shaft I took from a motorbike handle bar and the black aluminium tube is from a bit of left over pool fence I had laying around. The hose pivot point trick is something I learnt from my dad many many years ago.

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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#14 Post by Dodge » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:08 am

This is a note of modifications made June 2016 - July 2017 since the thread starter post in 2015..

After using the leccy for a couple of years mods are ideal for my use, with only future changes planne being add a speed controller as used by many others, already have the parts at home, just not done at this point.

1.. the original mounting board is used but all the base timbers were removed, it was then moved forward 20cms to the PVC risers inserted in flush deck rod holders behind the seat, a fence wire ring round the riser positions the board, while a cord is threaded thru the seat back saddles ....in place in about 30 seconds.
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2.. to tilt the motor, a short dowel was attached to top of tilting board, and cord loop is put over a knob screwed on side of the kayak.
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3.. although the rudder at back is better and more responsive with tighter turning circle it is now not used, instead a 30mm ID PVC tube is put over the outboard handle for steering
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4.. last, the original on/off switch in cockpit near knee is now gone, and all switches on leccy used to operate, with cables thru the yak having 2 x anderson plugs at battery end, with another 2 x anderson plugs at the motor end

EDIT 3.9.17 Have now fitted speed controller http://www.kfdu.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50744
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Re: Side mount for electric outboard

#15 Post by Fleetfeet » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:53 pm

Awesome work Dodge

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